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        Query: Why are Roman amphitheatres elliptical? |  
       
     
    ORIGINAL QUERY: Date:
    Tuesday 20 May 2003 
    From: Dag Nilsen
    <dag.nilsen@ark.ntnu.no> Norwegian University
    of Technology and Science (NTNU) 
     
    
      In taking over some lectures
      for our retired professor, I had to illuminate our first year
      students on the, to them, strange subject of of classical antiquity.
      The notion of architectural history is still so foreign to them
      that they don't know what to ask about. Or, maybe I overload
      them with information and slides - it's not that easy to squeeze
      it all into just three lectures. 
      Standing there, speaking about
      Roman theatres and amphi-theatres, I started wondering. I am
      embarrassed to admit that it was the first time it struck me
      that there must be a reason why the Colosseum and other amphitheatres
      are elliptical in plan, while their derivations -- the Iberian
      bull-fighting arenas, and the modern circus -- are circular,
      and the Roman theatres are semi-circular. I can't remember having
      seen any explanation in the literature. And -- are they true
      ellipses, or made up from circle arcs of different radii? 
       
       
       
     
    NNJ READERS'
    RESPONSES: From: Luigi
    Pepe <pep@unife.it> 
    
      Non so se è la risposta esatta, ma ho sempre pensato
      che la forma ellittica sia dovuta alla proprietà dell'ellisse
      che la somma delle distanze da due luoghi privilegiati (i fuochi)
      sia costante. 
      (I don't know if this is the exact response, but I have always
      thought that the elliptical shape was due to the property of
      the ellipse that the sum of the distances from two privileged
      loci (the focuses) is constant.) 
       
     
    ------------------------------------------------- From:
    Maurizio Lorber
    <mauriziolorber@yahoo.it> 
    
      I'm without an answer too about the ellipse-cirle problem
      in architecture (by the way, as you know, the colosseo is not
      an ellipse) but I think that you can find an interesting geometrical
      construction in the first book of Sebastiano Serlio and probably
      in the books of architecture of Vitruvius (especially in the
      illustrated edition of Daniele Barbaro and Palladio). 
     
    ------------------------------------------------- From:
    Paul Rosin <Paul.Rosin@cs.cardiff.ac.uk> 
    
      Jean-Claude Golvin in his book, L'Amphitheatre romain:
      essai sur la theorisation de sa forme et de ses fonctions,
      discusses these issues in great detail. First, he argues (as
      have many others before and after) that ampitheatres are oval
      rather than elliptical. 
      As for their overall shape, he says that a square or rectangular
      ampitheatre would result in combatants getting stuck in the corners.
      Circles/ovals make better use of the space. And finally, ovals/ellipses
      are better than circular ampitheatres since they have a dominant
      direction, giving a structure to the fight, whereas a circle
      would lead to an impression of confusion. 
     
    ------------------------------------------------- From:
    Mario Docci <mario.docci@uniroma1.it> 
    
      Potrà trovare la risposta ai suoi quesiti sulla rivista
      Disegnare, idee, immagini, n°18-19 Editore Gangemi-Roma.
      Comunque gli anfiteatri romani sotto tutti degli ovali a quattro
      o più centri. 
      (You can find the answers to your questions in the periodical
      Disegnare, idee, immagini, no. 18-19, Editore Gangemi,
      Roma. In any case, Roman amphitheatres are all ovals with four
      or more centers.) 
     
    ------------------------------------------------- From:
    Brigitte Van Tiggelen
    <vantiggelen@memosciences.be> 
    
      While honeymooning in Greece some years ago, I remember visiting
      an elliptical theater in Thorikos. It seems that early stone
      theater were not circular... and that more theater of this kind
      have been excavated in the last decade. 
      Have a look at the following web sites (some in German) : 
      http://lilt.ilstu.edu/drjclassics/lectures/theater/ancient_greek_theater.shtm 
      http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/image?lookup=1990.30.0129&type=site 
      http://www.gottwein.de/Hell2000/theat02.htm#Thorikos 
      http://www.oeaw.ac.at/kal/rezensionen/antra04.html 
      http://www.open.ac.uk/Arts/CC99/green.html#[3] 
      About the reason for elliptical, one should also question
      the probable need for a rectangularlike stage instaed of a circular
      one... 
     
    ------------------------------------------------- From:
    João Pedro Xavier <jpx@arq.up.pt> 
    
      It's almost impossible to distinguish an ellipse from an oval
      when the major and minor axes are not too different. Anyway,
      there is the question of the "parallelism": it is not
      possible to draw "parallel" ellipses while it's easy
      to do that with ovals (I'm remembering Serlio's ovals and the
      correspondent instructions to trace concentric ovals). I mean,
      if we have an ellipse and we intend to trace a line with each
      point equidistant to that ellipse we do not obtain another ellipse.
      So it seems reasonable for builders to adopt the oval form which
      facilitates the construction of the rows of benches and do not
      corrupt the whole form. But we have to wait for Sylvie's commentaries... 
      (Editor's note: Sylvie Duvernoy addressed the ellipse-oval
      issues in her Nexus 2002 presentation, "Architecture
      and Mathematics in Roman Amphitheaters", published in
      Nexus IV: Architecture and Mathematics.) 
     
    ------------------------------------------------- From:
    Roger Herz Fischler
    <rhfischl@math.carleton.ca> 
    
      I discuss this in Shape, Form and Space (editor's note:
      this is the text the Herz Fischler prepared for his own course
      on architecture and mathematics, a chapter of which is excerpted
      in the NNJ as "Didactics: Proportions
      in the Architecture Curriculum.") 
      The references that I give are: 
      
        Thoenes, C. 1963. "Studien zur Geschichte des peeteresplatzes",
        Zeitschrift fuer Kunstgeschichte, 26 (1963), 97-145 [this
        is for St. Peter's, suggests that a quadarc was used]. 
        Gridgeman, N.T. 1970. "Quadarcs, St. Peter's and the
        Coloseum", The Mathematics Teacher, 63 (1970), 209-215.
        Suggests quadarcs in all of these. 
       
      The important thing to remember is that conic sections in
      Roman times were all defined as cuts of cones; equation forms
      did not exist! So laying out an elliptical field is something
      that may not have even entered someone's mind. 
     
    ------------------------------------------------- From:
    John de Pillis <jdp@math.ucr.edu> 
    
      REFLECTING PROPERTY of ELLIPSES: 
      ================================ 
      A property of truly elliptical amphitheaters is that sound emitted
      from one of its foci is concentrated onto the other focus. That
      is, although sound may travel in all directions from one of the
      foci, each "sound wave" is reflected off the wall at
      just the correct angle so as to arrive at the second focus. 
      APPLICATION: 
      ============ 
      This means that a person can whisper while standing at one focus,
      and be heard clearly by someone else, standing at the second
      focus. (This feature is shown to visitors in several government
      buildings and museums.) People not located at either focus can
      not hear the whispers. 
 
      A LINK? 
      ======= 
      Whether the Romans used this "secret channel" to communicate,
      I do not know. Could be. 
      ATTACHMENT: 
      =========== 
      The (original) graphic,"Elliptical Arena," will illustrate
      more exactly, the ideas presented in my verbal response to why
      amphitheaters may be elliptical. 
        
     
    ------------------------------------------------- From:
    Graham Pont <pont@tpg.com.au> 
    
      I seem to recall reading (many years ago) an explanation of
      the theatre form in Francesco Milizia, Trattato completo formale
      e materiale del teatro (1794). 
     
    ------------------------------------------------- From:
    Rudi Penne <rudi.penne@pandora.be> 
    
      I am not sure whether my contribution is useful, because I
      haven't taken a close look at the shape of the amphitheatres
      yet. However, I guess they are not elliptic, but rather "super-elliptic"
      (at least they should be), with equation 
      (|x|/a)^p + (|y|/b)^p = 1
      with p a real number, typically between 2 and 3, but it might
      be larger. If p equals 2, we get an ellips, and if p tends to
      infinity, we get a rectangle. Superellipses
      (or Lamé ovals) are a "compromise" between ellipses
      and rectangles. 
      These super shapes often appear in nature since they perform
      better than circles (ellipses) and squares (rectangles) in matters
      like optimal fluid transport (e.g., a plane section of a bamboo
      stem). I 've been told that Piet Hein (mathematician? town architect?)
      designed a traffic square in Stockholm using a super-ellipse
      as model (I should look up again about the exponent p here),
      optimizing the traffic around the square. 
      I don't think that the ancient designers of the Colosseum
      were aware of the existence of super-ellipses, but maybe they
      had the right intuition? 
     
    ------------------------------------------------- From:
    Vladimiro Valerio <vladimir@iuav.it> 
    
      Relating to the form of Amphi-theatres, I suggest to having
      a look at: 
      Vladimiro Valerio, "Sul disegno e sulla forma degli anfiteatri,"
      Disegnare, 6 (1993): 25-34 (English summary). 
     
    ------------------------------------------------- From:
    Emanuel Jannasch
    <ejannasch@hfx.eastlink.ca> 
    
      Regarding the setting out of amphitheaters, I'd say they are
      generally made of circular arcs to simplify the builder's work.
      While there are means of drawing ellipses on a drawing board
      or even on a builder's lofting floor, these techniques are difficult
      to transfer to a large scale building project. This is especially
      true in the case of an amphitheater, because as the "ellipse"
      expands with each additional row of seats its aspect ratio (or
      angle of projection) changes, and it become gradually more circular.
      Determining the foci, etc., of each row would become quite a
      chore. On the other hand, four circular arcs can be combined
      into quite a presentable pseudoellipse. (They seem to look best
      when they are tangent to a circumscribed rhombus, touching at
      at the center of each side) The task of creating equally spaced
      "ellipses" on this type of plan is reduced to increasing
      the radii of the component cirular arcs by equal increments. 
      Regarding the shape of the arena floor, it would appear that
      the ellipse has several descendants, including the circus ring,
      the square "ring" of boxing and wrestling, and the
      rectangular court. Perhaps one should say that the ellipse achieves
      a balance of the central and bilateral geometries. The former
      seems to be suited for staging direct combat between men and/or
      beasts, whereas the latter lends itself to territorial contests*.
      I think the Roman amphitheater was used for both forms of competition.
      Additionally, an elongated plan establishes seating closer to
      and farther from the center of action, suitable for accommodating
      a socially stratified audience. 
      *Of modern playing areas, one might wonder if the more rounded
      ones (ellipses in the case of Australian Rules Football, and
      radiused rectangles in the case of ice hockey) don't promote
      a higher proportion of physical combat relative to territorial
      objectives. And perhaps tennis, played in virtually square arenas,
      should be seen as an indirect form of combat rather than an intimate
      game of territory. 
     
    ------------------------------------------------- From:
    Pietro Totaro
    <pietro.totaro@fastwebnet.it> 
    
      The most recent (as far as I know) book about the amphitheatres
      shape and history is: 
     
    D. L Bomgardner, The Story of the Roman Amphitheatre.
    London/New York: Routledge, 2000. ISBN 0-415-16593-8. 
    You can find an article [by Camillo Trevisan] "Sullo
    schema geometrico costruttivo degli anfiteatri romani: gli esempi
    del Colosseo e dell'Arena di Verona" excerpted from
    Disegnare, idee, immagini, no. 18-19 at this web address:
    http://www.iuav.it/dpa/ricerche/trevisan/anfite/anfite1.htm.
    Another article of the same author published on the web: http://www.iuav.it/dpa/ricerche/trevisan/anet/trait_en.htm
    is related to the oval problem and it could be useful too. Moreover
    it has a complete English version, unfortunately this is not
    available for the former. 
    The Coliseum plan is a true oval (polycentric construction)
    but it closely approximates the ellipse (see the remarks of Mario
    Docci above), the same property is relevant, e.g., to Verona
    Arena. So, just considerations of cosmogonical nature or the
    one of João Pedro Xavier could discriminate between the
    two possibilities. 
    About the ellipse: It is true that ancient
    Greeks called the conics stereoi topoi (solid loci). However,
    they knew well the plane properties of these curves ( boast of
    Apollonius of Perga, 3rd-2th century B.C., but already partially
    known to Menecmo) . They did not have the mathematical tools
    to calculating the perimeter of the ellipse exactly (i.e., the
    elliptic integrals introduced in the works of Euler and Legendre
    ) but they could calculate the area of the ellipse (Archimedes,
    On Conoids and Spheroids, prop. 6, its approximation depending
    only on p ) . Apollonius's work was known during the Roman imperial
    age. The discovery of the gardener's method, namely a method
    to trace an ellipse by means of a rope string and two pivots,
    is attributed to Anthemius of Tralles (mathematician and one
    of the architects of Sancta Sophia). One can always suppose that
    this method is far older: according to some researchers it dates
    back to Neolithic age. 
    ------------------------------------------------- From:
    Laurence Kasparowitz
    <PLN795@co.santa-cruz.ca.us> 
    
      seems to me quite simple...at least for the oval...it is a
      true test of charioteers to drive straight for awile ...and then
      have to make a half circle...and then keep doing it !!! 
     
    ------------------------------------------------- From:
    Biagio Di Carlo <mail@biagiodicarlo.com> 
    
      This is to continue the discussion of superellipses begun
      by Rudi Penne: 
      Under the pseudonym "Kumbel," Piet Hein(1905-1996),
      Danish scientist, designer, inventor and poet, wrote some 7000
      "Grooks" (short poems), later published by MIT Press.
      He was the inventor of the SOMA cube (1936) and developed the
      studies of ellipses begun by French mathematician Lamé.
      The scientific constributions of Piet Hein can be compared to
      those of Einstein and Bohr in the field of physics. 
      The SUPERELLIPSE was obtained by modifying the equation for
      the ellipse. The form of the superellipse is similar to a rectangle
      with its angles rounded, and was used by Hein to design a large
      piazza in the center of Stockholm, as well as for designs of
      tables and decorative objects (1950-1960). By rotating the superellipse
      on an axis one obtains a three-dimensional figure, the SUPERELLIPSOID,
      also called a Super Egg. 
      In 1973 Lloyd Kahn published in the magazine Shelter
      the information necessary for the construction of a superellipse,
      that is, the chord factors relative to a 4v icosahedron, expanded
      to the form of a superellipse. 
      The ellipsoidal form was successfully applied in the field
      of geodesic domes, particularly by John Rich, Ernie Aiken and
      Carey Smooth (links at http://www.biagiodicarlo.com). 
       
     
    ------------------------------------------------- From:
    Taro Nagazumi
    <tnagazumi@cc.e-mansion.com> 
    
      In the book Earth
      from Above by Arthus Bertrand there is an aerial view
      of a horse like figure in Oxfordshire. If you compare the form
      of it to the African Animal trap relic also in the same book
      you can see the movement through space as in hunting or horse
      riding as a giver of forms. If you look at Sterlin's book of
      Architecture you can see Precidents as Tarxien Temple in Malta
      etc. Then if you look at the main purpose of the Collosium as
      Chariot Racing, the purpose of enlonging one axis becomes so
      clear. Besides the Centriato( if I spell it correctly) the unit
      that Romans used to calculate farm land is very linear. Which
      makes the most minimum turns for the cattle driven plow to turn
      more efficient. Even in 18th-19th century Edo (Tokyo) which had
      a million population, you can see a similar form for horse training(with
      bow & arrow shooting range perpendicular to it). 
     
    ------------------------------------------------- From:
    Vera W. de Spinadel
    <vspinade@fibertel.com.ar> 
    
      if you don´t have access to real design, from 
      a mathematical point of view it is practically impossible to
      differentiate among an ellipse or an oval. Ellipses vary from
      the circumference, when both axes are equal to the ellongated
      ellipse, where the axes are very different, passing through the
      golden ellipse whose axes are in a golden relation (See Stonehenge
      Temple in my book, From the Golden Mean to Chaos
      (Buenos Aires: Vera W. de Spinadel, 1998). previously mentioned).
      An oval is any closed curve that encloses a convex region. Among
      them, the most well known are Casssini´s ovals, which are
      defined as the set of points in the plane, whose product of distances
      to two fixed points is constant (remember that the ellipse is
      defined as the set of points in the plane whose sum of distances
      to two fixed points is constant). With this definition of Cassini´s
      ovals, you get an enormous variety of forms! 
     
    ------------------------------------------------- From:
    Mark Wilson Jones <M.W.Jones@bath.ac.uk> 
    
      There have been quite a few responses already, so there is
      not call for much more comment. However, as the inquirer notes,
      not many of the responses address the problem of why amphitheatres
      should be the sahape they are (whether elliptical or oval). Golvin's
      work (cited in one reply) is the most extensive to tackle this
      theme, and I have also written on the subject in an article:
      "Designing amphitheatres," Romische Mitteilungen
      100, 1993, 391-441. 
      The following is lifted (more or less) from pp. 391-2: 
      "The origin of the architectural form of the amphitheatre
      is somewhat obscure. ... No doubt it actually evolved by a process
      of adapting rectangular spaces, often in the context of civic
      fora, the setting for early gladiatorial combats. In a rectangular
      arena the action could get "trapped", as it were, in
      a corner; and every corner is a relatively long way from spectators
      at the opposing one. Cutting off or rounding off corners naturally
      leads towards the smoother shape of the ellipse/oval, which may
      be likened to a stretched circle, or a circle with a tendency
      towards linearity. This form has further advantages as a compromise
      between those suited both to spectacles (centric) and processions
      (linear). 
      It is generally assumed that this evolution took place in
      Campania ... However, influential prototypes may (also) have
      been the wooden structures erected for occasional gladiatorial
      shows in the Forum Romanum. ... At some stage the elliptical/oval
      arena layout took hold, a novelty which, quite apart from the
      functional justification mentioned above, may have been suggested
      by the splayed or oblique shape of the Forum. ... (a parallel
      sided arena would have implied uncomfortable tapering spaces
      on the outside.) Did someone reason as did Michealangelo, who
      in the 16th century chose an elliptical pavement for the similarly
      shaped Campidoglio piazza, precisely so as to avoid this sort
      of formal conflict? Otherwise the ellipse may have recommended
      itself for the simple reason that it represented a departure
      from established building types such as the theatre and stadium,
      besides making a decisive break with forms which ultimately descended
      from Greek usage. 
      In contrast to relatively static rectilinear or centralised
      groundplans, the formal qualities of the ellipse are quite literally
      dynamic. Successive rings change in their proportions,the perimeter
      being much rounder than the arena [Plates iii and iv]. The varying
      curvature and the lack of a single focus naturally generate a
      sense of movement, and, without a good view of a large portion
      of the structure,it can be quite difficult to percieve exactly
      where one stands in relation to the whole. All this was quite
      revolutionary for its time...." 
     
    ------------------------------------------------- From:
    Dag Nilsen <dag.nilsen@ark.ntnu.no> 
    
      I got enough references for "how" to keep me busy
      for the summer, though my initial wonder was mainly "why?",
      which one of the responders picked up: sounds quite plausible
      that an oval form by being directional gives structure to fighting,
      while still being round, i.e. with no corners. 
      I realized almost immediately after having sent the query
      that the amphitheatre could not be a true ellipse, at least not
      both the arena and the seating perimeter, and moreover, that
      it would be impractical in layout on site -- but thanks to the
      answers, I noted the difference between "elliptical"
      and "oval", which I was not aware of before. 
      I will be better equipped if awkward questions pop up in next
      year's lectures. 
     
    ------------------------------------------------- From:
    Chris Lynn <chris.lynn@doeni.gov.uk> 
    
      Coming from a rather different angle I too wondered why amphitheatres
      were elliptical or oval? Earlier respondents have given good
      practical explanations of 'how' in terms of geometry and why-
      lack of awkward corners, the opportunity for linear progression.
      I also thought that the emperor, seated in the middle of one
      of the long sides would also get an optimum view in and oval-
      everything visible, nothing too far away. But a circle or a rectangle
      with hemicyclical ends could have achieved the same result and
      would have been easier to lay out, to cut stone for and to build.
      I wonder if the ellipse or oval form had any antecedents in the
      world of sacred architecture, thinking of the shows in the amphitheatre
      as originally funeral games? The design of the amphitheatre could
      have had a cosmological inspiration, the building representing
      a massive convocation of the community, seated internally in
      reverse of the normal spatial order of their ranks and assembled
      for a purpose which may originally have been (quasi) religious. 
      In the normal sense society would have been imagined with
      the emperor, magistrates and vestals at the top, then the 'knights'
      and then the mass of the free populace at the bottom of the (tripartite)
      social pyramid (with slaves below that again). To pursue this
      reverse analogy, it might have been imagined that the contests
      and shows were taking place in another region either above in
      the 'sky' or below in an infernal region. The idea that the amphitheatre,
      or rather its arena, was a portal to the infernal regions is
      reflected in the dress of the slaves who removed the bodies of
      fallen gladiators and the name of the gate from which they were
      removed. 
      Back to the initial question again, but slightly re-stated,
      is it possible that defining the arena in an oval or ellipse
      also symbolised its 'otherness' as well has having practical
      advantages for the organisation of the dreadful spectacles? 
     
    ------------------------------------------------- From:
    Per Arnt Carlsen
    <pacarlsen@sensewave.com> 
    
      As a simple architect I am inclined to suggest that building
      types with an audience, where two parts meet, had two focuses,
      en elliptic plan. The whole scheme would have been made for the
      two individuals, such as the fight betweeen the two gladiators,
      or the dialog of the actors in the theater. 
      Building types for the audience having one focus, could have
      a circle, such as in an arena for the bullfights where there
      was one focus, the bull, and the man circled around him before
      the audience. In a circus, the artist, or his performance, would
      be the focus. 
     
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